The Blue Jays Won The John Farrell Trade With The Red Sox

Tuesday November 6th, 2012

Jake Dal Porto: OK, maybe it’s not big deal that the Boston Red Sox pulled a fast one on the Toronto Blue Jays, in a trade where they acquired ex-Blue Jays’ manager John Farrell. This whole conundrum is minor in terms of the impact it will make on both teams. But the Jays could have done a lot better in terms of the talent they received back, to say the least.

According to multiple reports, the Red Sox craved John Farrell deeply. So with that in mind, you would have to think that they would have gone above and beyond to snatch him from Toronto. Yet, they did not need to use maximum effort to obtain him, trading just Mike Aviles in compensation.

Aviles isn’t an entirely blank asset. He complied a .663 OPS in 2012, including a career-high 13 home runs and 60 runs batted in. On the same note, he is far from a star, which is precisely why the Blue Jays should have set their sights a tad higher. If Boston really wanted Farrell at the helm, they would have probably been willing to exchange a player (or players) with higher ceilings. Or more simply, a player with room to grow, instead of a veteran whose best years are most likely behind him, a la Aviles.

While there is a certain extent as to how much the Jays could’ve demanded for Farrell, they now have very little to show for him, especially considering that they dealt Aviles two weeks later to the Indians in exchange for Esmil Rogers. Instead of a back up shortstop at best, Toronto now gets the mighty task to try and repair a wobbly pitcher in Rogers. But this isn’t such a bad situation for the Blue Jays.

In four up and down years, Rogers has compiled a 5.95 earned run average over 114 games with 22 of them being starts. The book on Rogers is that he is obnoxiously wild, but still has the potential to make something of himself at 27 years-old. Over his four-year career, his walk per nine rate checks in at four per nine innings. That is indeed high.

In Rogers’s defense, he has pitched at the hitters’ friendly Coors Field for the majority of his career. Coors can affect the break on certain pitches and it obviously doesn’t suppress many fly balls from sailing over the fences. So for a pitcher, especially an unproven one like Rogers, it doesn’t have many positive aspects, as you can clearly see.

But all in all, the Blue Jays are rolling the dice with Rogers. When you look at it, though, flipping Aviles for Rogers isn’t such a bad transaction because Rogers boasts more potential.

At best, Aviles was probably going to back up Yunel Escobar at shortstop in Toronto. Perhaps he would have filled a temporary void at second base with Kelly Johnson set to test the free agent waters. On the other hand, Rogers is a make or break commodity. He could transform into something worthwhile, or he could simply follow the same dreadful path that he has taken since he broke into the majors. It is not such a big deal, rather than the fact that Rogers boasts a higher ceiling.

While the Blue Jays try to craft some mischievous plan to turn Rogers into a dominant something, the Red Sox are probably laughing. But hey, they haven’t had much to laugh about in recent years.

By making Aviles seem average, Farrell on the other hand starts to appear like a Hall of Fame manager, which he certainly is not. It’s quite evident from Escobar’s actions that Farrell did not have much of a grip on a young clubhouse. This will certainly not bode him well with the Red Sox and the treacherous media that picks apart every decision that a manager makes.

See, where minor problems were overlooked in Toronto, minor problems in Boston generally made the headlines in the Boston Globe. Yes, some of the problem creators are gone (Josh Beckett and Carl Crawford), but anything short of a winning season is not accepted in Boston despite a stripped down roster. And at the moment, Farrell has few reasons to believe that his team will compete in 2013.

The Red Sox might think that Farrell is the man for the job. But in reality, no man in the man for the job with a roster that has too many holes. Meanwhile, Farrell will look to prove the baseball world wrong, much like Bob Melvin, Buck Showalter, and Davey Johnson did in 2012.

(*The views and opinions expressed in this report are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of*)

Jake Dal Porto is a Baseball Writer with MLB reports and a student from the Bay Area. Jake’s favorite sports moment was when the Giants won the World Series back in 2010. He loves to use sabermetrics in his work. He thinks they are the best way to show a player’s real success compared to the basic stats such as ERA, RBIs, and Wins. Jake also enjoys interacting and debating with his readers. Follow him on Twitter:  


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Posted on November 6, 2012, in MLB Teams: Articles and Analysis and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 7 Comments.

  1. Good article Jake! I’m much more thrilled about Rogers than I was about Aviles. Don’t get me wrong, I like Aviles…he is a useful major league piece and has great character in the clubhouse. I am just much more turned on by the whole transaction now that we got an intriguing arm like Rogers. I think that talented and capable, controllable relievers are very going to become more valuable than they ever had previously…because of the new changes in made by the MLBPA.

    Rogers could become a really, really nice part of the Blue Jays bullpen and/or rotation for years to come. I think Farrell is a good baseball mind with great cognitive abilities…maybe better suited for an executive/front office type of position. He was good in the bullpen when he was working with a handful of players and focused in…not sure about his leadership approach being spread over a 25/40 man roster…especially a roster like the Blue Jays that has so many daily call-ups from the minors. It’s not his ability, just whether his approach is a good fit for working with larger groups.

    I think that the chances of Rogers being a real impact player for the Blue Jays in the coming years is much higher than any individual contributions we would have seen from Yan Gomes, Mike Aviles or Farrell. He will be a very useful piece…maybe even becoming an elite arm…Who knows?

    • Yan Gomes had a great batting stance and that made him a novelty. He was also the first Brazilian player in the MLB and a really nice guy…plus he had some clutch hits in his short time up in Toronto. That being said, I don’t see him being too big of a loss. He might very well become a very good player, and he will at least be a useful utility players as he is very versatile. He has good talent, but I don’t know how much his bat will develop. He could become very good, but I’m not too upset about missing out on that possibility. I think what we netted in return (Rogers–strong bullpen arm with lots of upside and controllable long term) is more useful to us right now and going forward. I hope Yan Gomes becomes an impact player in the big leagues and goes on to have a great career…it could happen and he’s a good guy.

  2. of all the trades the Blue Jays have pulled off in the past year to get back bullpen pieces, I think the one that will be missed most ultimately is Nestor Molina. That’s accounting for the Travis Snider trade as well. And I’m not taking into consideration what we got back in return…just saying which guy the Blue Jays gave up in the past year for bullpen relief…that will go on to have the best career and be the most productive major leaguer. I see Nestor Molina becoming very good. Hopefully Sergio Santos will too.

  3. in my view John Farrell achieved nothing and prove nothing with the Blue jays in my opinion the jury is still out on whether he will be successful manger or not Iam a big Yankee and Baseball fan and I follow the the game closely In the two years that he was with the Blue Jays I was totally unimpressed with his managing .John Farrell might have been excellent Pitching Coach that doesn’t mean that he is or will be a good and winning Manger .Athough they won’t admit the Blue jays have to be relieved that he is now in Boston .I believe what Fsrrell achieved in Toronto was nothing anybody hired to manage manthemBlue jays should be able to as good perhaps even better .As far the alleged Trade that is all window-dressing and it means nothing .In regard to the RedSox they hired a safe choice .After the BobbyV situation they had to do something that appears to look good .I believe it will be nteresting to see a number of things as it applies to Farrell 1) what kind of support will management and ownership gave Farrell if Boston doesn’t due well on thevfield AS far other Factors are concerned we all know about the Boston Media will they beunder conditional loyal to Farrell .I think we all know the answer to that .John Farrell will only be a successful manger if the Boston Mediaendores and support him and ownership and upper management support hin unconditionally and supply him with players who will help make The Redsoxcompetitive again

  4. I didn’t say this before my mistake the article on the Blue jays was excellent Keep up the woodwork and Thsnks

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